The WWE partnership between Gunther and Ludwig Kaiser has been one of the most dominant alliances of the modern era, but Kaiser has now revealed the real reason behind their recent separation on television.

Speaking on the Kennt jeder podcast with Hamad Firdousi, Kaiser admitted the split wasn’t forced by WWE management, but something he and Gunther came up with themselves. He reflected on their history together, from their days in wXw’s Ringkampf to the creation of Imperium in WWE.

“I think I have never said this in public, but it was Gunther’s and my idea,” Kaiser said.

He explained how the dynamic of Ringkampf worked and how it carried into Imperium, with Gunther positioned as the leader and himself as part of the tag team unit.

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“You see, Imperium originated in wXw as Ringkampf, even though it was set up differently. We were all on the same level, but with different characters. Timothy Thatcher was the roughneck for the dirty work. I was the arrogant young boy. WALTER (Gunther) was the slaughterer to kill everyone. Imperium was a different dynamic. Gunther was the main guy and I was part of the tag team.”

Kaiser stressed that working alongside Gunther elevated him but also limited how he was viewed.

“Gunther is insane, he unlocks something in people that only few can. You need to know your place. My job was to make his act better and not take anything away. But at some point you want more and you get to a point where you want more. But if you keep walking behind Gunther, I remain the tag team guy. We realized something needs to change, so we did.”

The German star admitted the move was a gamble but one he felt he had to take to prove himself in WWE.

“Of course there is a risk. But in America you need to bank on yourself and on your skills. You need to have the balls to do that. You will get that chance, you need to use it. I would say for myself I did just that.”

Kaiser recently took on the role of El Grande Americano after Chad Gable was sidelined with shoulder surgery, with Pete Dunne and Tyler Bate surfacing as his masked accomplices. Meanwhile, Gunther has been out of action since SummerSlam due to nose surgery but is expected back soon.

The decision to split from Gunther shows Kaiser’s determination to carve out his own path, even after years of being tied to one of WWE’s most dominant figures.

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Felix Upton has over 15 years of experience in media and wrestling journalism. His work at Ringside News blends speed, accuracy, and industry insight.

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