Jade Cargill isn’t trying to win anyone over — and that’s exactly why being a heel works for her over a babyface.
Cargill spoke on The Joe Budden Podcast and broke down exactly why she prefers being a heel over a babyface, making it clear that trying to win people over isn’t something that fits who she is. She started by explaining that being a good guy comes with expectations she simply doesn’t enjoy — especially the pressure to constantly engage and rally the crowd.
“Heel. All day. I don’t care to have people cheer for me. And I hate that, because you have to go out there and say, ‘Yeah, let’s go.’ I’m not like that.”
From there, she got even more direct about her mindset, making it clear she’s not interested in forcing approval from anyone. Cargill also stated that her focus is on performing at her level, not adjusting herself to match audience expectations.
“I’m kind of like—y’all going to like me, you like me. If you don’t like me, I don’t like you either. Like, I’m that person. I just go out there and do the damn thing, and if you don’t like it, you don’t like it.”
She then provided context on her current run, explaining that since turning heel back in November, she’s fully leaned into the role and now treats everything she does as part of that character.
“Well, I’ve been in this role since March—no, since November when I turned. So right now, I wear it for the most part, but I was a good guy, and I’m not a good guy anymore. So I’m doing acting now—everything I’m doing.”
When asked if she switches that persona off at home, Cargill made it clear there’s a distinction — but also admitted her heel side is just an amplified version of who she already is.
“Yeah. I’m real chill, but my heel character is just me to like the thousandth power. Like, I think I’m attractive, right? Everybody should—I’m attractive, I look good. But I’m not in your face saying I’m this, I’m that—I’m not. I’m just like, ‘Yo, okay, whatever.’”
She also touched on how she naturally hypes herself up, but sees it as confidence rather than arrogance. Cargill wrapped it up by reinforcing that her heel persona isn’t something forced — it’s simply her personality turned up.
“I mean, I talk my s*** sometimes, and he’s like, ‘Sit down—you’re doing too much,’ type thing. But that’s just more so like a talking-myself-up vibe. But, I mean, I’m just me to the tenth power for the most part. I’m just chilling.”
At the end of the day, Cargill isn’t trying to fit into the traditional mold of a fan-favorite — she’s leaning into what feels natural, and that’s exactly why the heel role works for her.
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